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Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby RichH » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:35 pm

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Re: Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby RichH » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:40 pm

Sorry, hit submit while typing.

I blocked my EGR approx 5 years ago.

140 fwd mk7 2.2.

Ran with engine light on since then. Now I've removed the blanking plate for the MOT ('cos it's a fail now to have light on :evil: ) and she won't start.

Turn key and it catches for a second then dies.

Sometimes it'll limp along knocking for a second then die. No response to throttle pedal of course.
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Re: Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby loot » Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:30 pm

Only thing that it might be is that the egr is stuck open and passing gas, unless you've shorted a wire but even then I've never found that to be a starting or running problem. Maybe blank it again to see if it runs then you know that it is possibly time for a new egr.

Also the grub can pop out of the egr which is what keeps the worm /valve closed.
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Re: Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby RichH » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:49 pm

Your right Loot.

Blanked it again and ran like a champ.

Removed EGR and top of valve melted off looks like!

Got a crappy cheap egr for £100. Didn't even come with the steel coolant pipes!

So now I've got the EGR in front of the fire and the pipes in the freezer. Will the fit be enough or should I smear some quicksteel on the pipes when putting them in you think?
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Re: Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby loot » Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:19 pm

Sounds like you bought a non water cooled egr since no pipes. Hopefully they'll swap over easy enough but check if the hole goes through the same only I'm not sure if it will or won't lol.

I imaging they are pressed in and possible sealed or glued in with something.

I'd have got a tpuk modified water cooled egr for 65 quid tbh but it's there now, maybe you have Araldite or that quicksteel might do.
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Re: Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby RichH » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:07 pm

Modified egr??

It’s a water cooled one but no pipes in. Think they want another £35 for one with pipes.

The pipes came out ok. But don’t go in the cheap chinky crap new one! Grrrr.

Back in the morning and another 35 quid by the look.

I should have done it sooner. Mot tmoz. Left til last minute as usual.




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Re: Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby RichH » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:25 pm

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Re: Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby loot » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:13 pm

That's the difference lol non water cooled rgr no pipes, water cooled egr with pipes :D

You can just bypass it, join the 2 water pipes together I think ppl use 15mm radiator copper pipe. Don't need it. Gets the mot done etc.
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Re: Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby RichH » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:15 pm

Does it not need it ?


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Re: Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby loot » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:19 pm

No, some have it and some don't, you'd think maybe three higher powered vans would and the lower ones not but I don't see any logic to it, my 140 lwb rwd 07 didn't have it, maybe newer ones did but in the uk there's no need.
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Re: Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby RichH » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:33 pm

Ah fantabulous.

See what your saying. Thought it’d be a different casting for a non cooled pump.

Copper pipe it is!


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Re: Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby andz327 » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:59 pm

loot wrote:Sounds like you bought a non water cooled egr since no pipes. Hopefully they'll swap over easy enough but check if the hole goes through the same only I'm not sure if it will or won't lol.

I imaging they are pressed in and possible sealed or glued in with something.

I'd have got a tpuk modified water cooled egr for 65 quid tbh but it's there now, maybe you have Araldite or that quicksteel might do.
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Re: Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby RichH » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:00 am

I know. I should’ve done it weeks ago.


Mot runs out tmoz so down to the wire as usual.


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Re: Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby loot » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:24 am

Got my window getting replaced Saturday and the pas pipes to rack seals replaced and mot on monday. Bloody 3 year old van is ready for the skip :lol:
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Re: Unblocked EGR. Now won't start

Postby knobby1 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:43 am

loot wrote:Got my window getting replaced Saturday and the pas pipes to rack seals replaced and mot on monday. Bloody 3 year old van is ready for the skip :lol:


LOL...my old bus is 10 years old now.....130k kms....is still in great nick and no rust, no oil leaks and no coolant leaks....and still gets great mileage for a LWB HR and goes like stink... :mrgreen:

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