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MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a month

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MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a month

Postby Enlarging2200 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 1:28 pm

I own a 2013 MK7 2.2 TDCI Manual with 180 000km on it.

I noticed a whining/whistling transmission (details below), but the symptoms appear and disappear depending on the mood of the car.

When present
    it's a high-pitched sort of whirring/whistling noise.
    It's there in any gear, higher with speed.
    The noise stops when in neutral or depressed pedal, even when driving at higher speeds down a hill.
    First appeared about a month ago, immediately stopped. Appeared again last week, then this morning. Didn't hear anything this afternoon.

I drove by my mechanic, who told me these cars tend to have transmissions fail :( and that I'm welcome to bring it in, but he may be unable to find and fix the issue due to the coming-and-going of the noise :x . He advised me to go to the ford dealer shop. Supposedly the guy there is an ACE, worked on hundreds of such transmissions and is my best shot in the region.

The Ford dealer doesn't have a spot for about a month :shock: and my second vehicle is a scooter the lady uses to go to work :(

Given those symptoms, what would you do?
I can rent a car for a month and drop it at Ford, but money is tight.
Or would you drive it for another 500-ish KM / 1 month until the Ford guy is available?
Or do I need another mechanic to go on on a noise-chase and then decide?

Thanks for your views!
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Re: MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a m

Postby tranmx2 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:34 pm

Did you check the inlet / exhaust systems for a hole/split?
Is the turbo working correctly?
Do you have Forscan?
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Re: MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a m

Postby Enlarging2200 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:17 pm

I did not check the intake or exhaust, would not know how to do that correctly.
Same for Turbo.

I don't have Forscan but would be willing to invest if it saved me time and garage money.

I assumed transmission because
:arrow: no gear locked = no noise
:arrow: the shop guy assumed transmission too (admittedly, I gave him the idea)
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Re: MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a m

Postby metalworker0 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:49 pm

if it was me i would drop the oil from the box and inspect it ..if you don't see glittery bits ..you have not to worry so much, if you do see them, change the oil and do your 500 miles with it until you get it to the mechanic - changing the oil will give more time if the gearbox is the cause.

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Re: MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a m

Postby knobby1 » Thu Apr 11, 2024 11:31 pm

Enlarging2200 wrote:I did not check the intake or exhaust, would not know how to do that correctly.
Same for Turbo.

I don't have Forscan but would be willing to invest if it saved me time and garage money.

I assumed transmission because
:arrow: no gear locked = no noise
:arrow: the shop guy assumed transmission too (admittedly, I gave him the idea)


Whistling noise could be a split boost pipe, worth checking. The gearboxes are usually quite robust unless abused.

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Re: MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a m

Postby Enlarging2200 » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:19 am

metalworker0 wrote:if it was me i would drop the oil from the box and inspect it ..if you don't see glittery bits ..you have not to worry so much, if you do see them, change the oil and do your 500 miles with it until you get it to the mechanic - changing the oil will give more time if the gearbox is the cause.

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Thanks !! Is that the engine oil or the oil from the gearbox?
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Re: MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a m

Postby Enlarging2200 » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:43 am

knobby1 wrote:
Enlarging2200 wrote:I did not check the intake or exhaust, would not know how to do that correctly.
Same for Turbo.

I don't have Forscan but would be willing to invest if it saved me time and garage money.

I assumed transmission because
:arrow: no gear locked = no noise
:arrow: the shop guy assumed transmission too (admittedly, I gave him the idea)


Whistling noise could be a split boost pipe, worth checking. The gearboxes are usually quite robust unless abused.

Lord Knobrot


Thanks!
Wouldn't that mean a noticeable loss of power? That's not my case.
Wouldn't that also be constant? In my case, it happens only sometimes. Shutting off the car, getting back in half an hour later often times stops the issue.

The noise is like a loud kettle, as I said only when in gear and louder with acceleration.
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Re: MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a m

Postby metalworker0 » Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:24 pm

i meant the gearbox oil

The only time ever I've had a loud kettle noise was when i was driving a car with a head gasket problem, Hillman Avenger 1500, i knew it had failed, but i just continued to drive it for weeks, as there was an emergency on at work, had to work loads of hours and weekends etc ..and the pay just for one weekend far exceeded the value of the car ..was only 4 miles to work and i just got away with it for a long time ..probably 6 months.

2 miles into each trip the whistle went off for 10 seconds or so , probably as the thermostat opened.

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Re: MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a m

Postby knobby1 » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:12 pm

Enlarging2200 wrote:Thanks!
Wouldn't that mean a noticeable loss of power? That's not my case.
Wouldn't that also be constant? In my case, it happens only sometimes. Shutting off the car, getting back in half an hour later often times stops the issue.

The noise is like a loud kettle, as I said only when in gear and louder with acceleration.


Not necessarily, the boost pressure only increases when engine is under load, black smoke during acceleration is usually the result of split boost pipes.

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Re: MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a m

Postby andz327 » Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:32 pm

Does the noise come on or change at all when your going round left or right hand bends?????
5spd or 6spd box ????

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Re: MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a m

Postby Enlarging2200 » Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:57 am

andz327 wrote:Does the noise come on or change at all when your going round left or right hand bends?????
5spd or 6spd box ????

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It's not affected by bends or turning the wheel at all. It's not a wheel bearing, different sound (had one changed and all inspected recently :-)).
The only thing that affects it is if the car is in gear or not.

Haven't heard anything this week though
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Re: MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a m

Postby metalworker0 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:32 pm

whats the mileage ..if its done a very high mileage it may be something in the box that is on its way out .

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Re: MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a m

Postby metalworker0 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 3:28 pm

never mind answering that you say the mileage in first post .which is the equivalent of 111 thousand miles...which is low for a box.
an oil change may work wonders though

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Re: MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a m

Postby andz327 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:13 am

Enlarging2200 wrote:
andz327 wrote:Does the noise come on or change at all when your going round left or right hand bends?????
5spd or 6spd box ????

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It's not affected by bends or turning the wheel at all. It's not a wheel bearing, different sound (had one changed and all inspected recently :-)).
The only thing that affects it is if the car is in gear or not.

Haven't heard anything this week though
You never replied if 5spd or 6spd.... 6spd is prone to problems and not as sturdy as 5spd

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Re: MK7 2.2 TDCI - Driving with whining transmission for a m

Postby knobby1 » Wed Apr 17, 2024 12:44 am

andz327 wrote:You never replied if 5spd or 6spd.... 6spd is prone to problems and not as sturdy as 5spd

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Aren't "all" Euro-5's 6 speed whether FWD or RWD our mucker..??

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