We need axle info!!!

[Gunslinger]

springs are on my van, its just a bare axle i have in the garage here at home, and dont plan on taking the springs off again.

propshaft flange info i can do though so will add that too tomorrow (oops today ! .... just got home from spraying my van)

[Gunslinger]

ok, here we go ...

mk2 1984 "G" Type axle (Twin Rear Wheel) From a 190 2.4 Minibus

Backplate to Backplate (inside edges, outer rim to outer rim) = 1222mm
Shock mount to Shock mount (inside edges) = 596mm
Shock mount metal thickness = 4mm
Shock mount internal width = 39mm
Shock mount (outer edge) to centre of Spring "U" bolt hole (inner ones) = 115mm
Distance between Spring "U" Bolt holes (centre to centre, left to right) = 78mm
Distance between Spring "U" bolt holes (centre to centre, front to back) = 115mm
Distance between Outer Spring "U" bolt holes (centre) to Backplate mounting flange (outer edge) = 98mm
Distance from Outer Spring "U" bolt holes (centre) to Backplate (outer rim, inside edge, ie where it bulges back inwards) = 79mm
Spring Saddle Centre to Spring Saddle Centre = 995mm Approximately (hard to measure accurately over the Diff housing)

These are all measured from my axle while it was off the vehicle, so you might find a little tiny difference as it was done with a tape measure and my tired eyes .... but for our purposes here they should be fine

i forgot to get the dimensions of the spring saddle, but because of the sloping sides on these that would have been difficult, and inaccurate this is why i went to the centre of the holes, and for our needs here the saddle sizes are not so important as we know they are all suitable and are all similar


Probshaft flange details to follow, lost the mk2 prop flange in the bottom of the oil container i used when i drained the axle, i'll dig it out and measure it when i get chance.

[Rolo]

Good job, thanks.

[Luke]

SWB mk1/2/3/4/5 interchangability

found something out today which kinda puts pay to what i thought before mk4/5 axles arn't a strait swap for mk1/2 axles - the shocker mounting is on the front on the mk4 and the back on the mk1/2 of course it wouldnt be that difficult to cut the mountings off and weld them on the other way round, but you would need access to a welder (i am at this point still assuming mk4/5 axles are identical but im not 100%)

The mk3 shockers go the same way as the mk1/2 - so if you have a mk1 or 2 and need an axle best bet is to go for a mk3 - easier to find - cheeper and more modern brakes!!!

also the weight of a mk4 axle - all in brakes, oil but no springs is 104.5KG the mk3 one is 89KG

[100ps_drw_hicube]

mk5 axles can have the shocks mounted either way my dads has them going forwards but mine go backwards??

[Luke]

:? mk5 axles can have the shocks mounted either way my dads has them going forwards but mine go backwards??

SWB

[100ps_drw_hicube]

oh thought ya meant in general

[Gunslinger]

mk3's are definitely the same orientation as a mk2.

as for the mk4 one you have there, if it came from a chassis cab (single or twin wheel it makes no difference) then things arent the same, one of those things is that the shocks are sometimes mounted backwards like you said, but as 100ps says not always, i have actually seen a chassis cab with the mountings for both orientations on the vehicle

.... Friday after throw together vehicle anyone .... you can almost picture one rolling of the production line at 5 to 5 on a friday night, one shock mounted one way and the other side mounted the opposite way !!

[Luke]

ok one more............ SWB mk1 mk2
the prop flange will swap between mk1 and mk2 axles the splines it fits on are the same
BUT the outer dia which runs along the seal lip is 40mm on mk2's and 40.6 on mk1's [or was it the other way round - i'll re-measure and edit in ] so the correct seal will almost certanly be needed

the seal no. for the mk2 is 77GG 4 676A 5A i think and theres no chance i can make out the mk1's number

[Gunslinger]

ohhhhh crap, i forgot to measure that on the mk3 one i fitted to my mk2 axle ..... this could be interesting

[Infectus-Guy]

I have a 130 axle on my mk3 1991 swb 120 if that's any help. Ride is a bit high and firm but it does the job............
Guy

[duratorque 2.4]

When I got my 2000 2.4 3500 125. the diff was whining at 54000 miles.I got a 2nd hand complete axle from a scrappy in Bow East London for 300 quid, paid my local man 100 quid to fit it and its been fine apart from the speedo under reading by 4mph at 60mph.ratio difference probably.The new axle came with Abs but we just took the wires off and no problem.
Hope this helps.

[dangeeeeerousss]

hi all i dont know if this is going off the subject a bit but would it be possible to use the running gear off some thing else for an example sierra rear axle or struts or granny or something like that out of curiosity
thanks

[madvanman]

hi all i dont know if this is going off the subject a bit but would it be possible to use the running gear off some thing else for an example sierra rear axle or struts or granny or something like that out of curiosity
thanks

ganadas have independant rear suspension, you can get it to fit but IT IS DEFINATLY NOT a strait swap
most car axels that are wide enough and of the same type of design as the transit can be made to fit, but you will need to fabricate the shock mounts etc.

[popuptoaster]

dont know if its relevant or not, but i know for a fact that the crown wheel and pinion in a P100 axle can be swapped for the ones from an Atlas axle to give massive choice of ratio's as the axles are pretty much the same apart from the thicker axle tubes and halfshafts.

and P100's have 2.8i granada front brake calipers which have about 40% extra pad area over the M16 caliper fitted to most other Fords of the time (even though the caliper looks the same, used to be a sneaky trick in race series where the brakes had to remain standard. )

i only mention this as although i dont know much about transits at the mo i have been told there are some similar bits on the P100.